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Friern Barnet Photo Archive

The Avenue, New Southgate
The Friern Barnet Photo Archive
The Avenue, New Southgate

Friern Barnet Road runs along the top of this picture taken in the mid-1950s. An off licence, The Brown Jug, can be seen on the left - where the hanging sign is. St Paul's School is up a short road just beyond the parked car on the right
Picture added on 06 January 2010 at 14:46
The corner shop on right (corner of Holmesdale Rd) was my home from birth in 1943 to 1948. The shop name was Phillpots and we lived upstairs. My gran lived at 5 Holmesdale Rd. When we moved to 20 Upper Park Rd in 1948, my gran, Annie Newby, soon came to live with us until her death in 1964.
Within weeks we were re-located to 16 Ivy Road, Southgate, N14. In 1966 we moved to Whetstone.
Added by Peter Turner on 30 July 2011
My nan lived in Holmesdale Road, not sure which number, and also my great nan lived there, my great gran was Mrs. Ellen Bean and my nan was Mrs. Marjorie Joyes, my mum was Betty Joyes, my mum also lived in the street as a child along with her 6 siblings, my grandfather was William Joyes. My nan also moved to Whetstone, she lived at 51, Russell Road until her death in 1978.
Added by Janet Morgan on 19 January 2014
I was born in the Avenue in 1938. We moved to miles away in 1939. My gran lived in the Avenue until it was pulled down. She was known as Mrs Marshall. Mrs Conway, my aunt, also lived there with her family.
Added by brian lee on 31 January 2014
Was your uncle Pat Conway as I worked with a Pat Conway when we worked on the Northmet. He moved from The Avenue to live near Russell Lane
Added by Jim on 11 February 2014
My dad Phillip Wick lived on The Avenue back in 1945 for a few years before the family moved to Muswell Hill. I know he attended St Pauls for a few years.
Added by Vince Wick on 27 February 2015
My Dad's family lived in number 9 The Avenue. Brett family. Howard, Ernie, Bill, Wally (my Dad), Winnie, Ivy, Blanche, Dolly. The Avenue was a toughly place, the police would only patrol it in pairs. As recounted by Mr Collier in local history lessons at Arnos County secondary modern in the 1950's
Added by Walter Brett on 04 June 2016
As in the comment above, I lived at number 9 until it was demolished, my Father was Ernie Brett. As Walter mentions above, it was a very rough area, tramps lived in the half demolished houses which were our playground when I was young. I remember the Brown Jug off licence, the owner used to throw eggs at us through the doorway to 'see us off' as we were always hanging around! I went to St Paul's School, Miss Pightling was my headmistress.
Added by Angie Marshall (ne Brett) on 07 February 2017
I lived next door the Brown Jug in Carlisle Place number 12, home of the Hanscomb family. My sister Gillian went to St Pauls school till 1964 - we were rehoused at Link Road Friern Barnet
Added by Trevor Hall on 16 February 2017
Hello Trevor, bet you don't remember me when we played football at Arnos you gave me a lift on your motor bike sometimes most of us played for Palmers. I am in touch with those that are left now and we have a New Southgate reunon each year. Next one is on 17 june at the Con club. I lived at 58 The Avenue. My no is 01782 832 535. Jim
Added by Jim on 21 February 2017
Sad to say that Johnnie Collier has passed away funeral on 23rd at New Southgate cem 2.30pm
Added by Jim on 08 March 2017
My grandparents the Heathmans lived in The Avenue, and were certainly still there in 1955. Does anyone remember them? My mum Jean Heathman went to St Pauls School x

Added by Julie ansell on 15 March 2017
My dad was born at 58 The Avenue in October 1913. His name was George Herbage. His father's name was Henry and his mother was called Ellen. It seems Henry and Ellen split up quite early on and my dad ended up in Walthamstow. That is where our family were rooted. It’s lovely to see this picture. My dad died in 1967 when I was 8 and I never got to ask him about his family stuff.
Added by Mike Herbage on 16 August 2018
My parents lived in no 58 from about 1950 till it was pulled down the people that come to the reunions we have, parents lived next door at 59 the Zinzans maybe you could come to the next one in May or June next year

Added by Jim Keogh on 27 August 2018
A bit late Jim but my uncle was Pat Conway but we knew him as Uncle Jim .Only 4 years late,
Added by Brian Lee on 30 August 2018
My mums family also lived in the Avenue, I remember going there as a child, don’t know what number, my mum was Betty Joyes, she had twin brother and sister Joan and John, then Jim, then Leslie, and Irene, older brother bill stayed with my grandma mrs beanin holmesdale rd,just wondered if anyone remembers the family, I believe it was pretty rough and money was scarce for most families. I never met my mums dad he died before I was born in 1954, but his name was also Bill, apparently he was blind,
Added by Janet morgan on 05 September 2018
My Mums family lived down the Av. I remember it well always down there when I was a kid, my Mum was Barbara Millwood Grandad was Fred Millwood Nan Elizabeth .
Added by David Deering daviddeering on 01 December 2018
to M Herbage picture no 2033, is no 58 where your parents and mine lived next door to K Zinzan it's the last of the level topped fronts got a white wall Mrs Walker lived at no 57
Added by Jim Keogh on 03 December 2018
My Nan and Grandad were the owners of the Brown Jug Off Licence (Dorothy & William Strange). That would have been sometime around 1948/56. For a while I lived in the Off Licence too, with my parents (Rita and Frederick Ansell). My Aunt was at one time the owner of the hardware shop shown in that photo (Marjory Blundell) but it was a general store then. She also had a shop further down The Avenue on the same side at the Brown Jug. At the bottom of The Avenue was some open ground we kids used to call "The Bank" where we would play from morning till night! Good memories. :)
Added by Allen Ansell on 14 December 2018
Yes I remember Mr Strange and the Elephant in the window. The hardware shop became Mrs Lovats later on Caroll was the daughter. Peter Turner was born above the shop he does the reunions. Also the shop down the Ave was run by the Bennets then Mrs Elphick, it was on the corner of the allyway yes the bank swinging on the ropes. Chris Cox, the Tidimans Fisks, Colliers lots have gone now. If you ever want a chat to see who is still with us give me a call 01782 832 535. Have a good Christmas. Jim 58 the Ave
Added by Jim Keogh on 16 December 2018
message for Janet Morgan spoke to my sister said she remembers your family her name was Sue her friend was Elaine Shaw and Mary Ward Johnny Davies (gert) have a good Christmas,,,,, Jim
Added by Jim Keogh on 16 December 2018
My dad's family lived down The Avenue. Satchell family - does anybody remember them? I was born in Lee Street.
Added by Deborah satchell on 14 January 2019
hello Deborah yes I remember the Satchell family worked with Ronnie and played football with Eddie

Added by Jim on 02 February 2019
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